1k, Nids. Contemplating. Opinions?

[The Guardian of Death]

Well, yeah, simple: Here is the thought process for a 1k list.

1000 Points

Hive Tyrant
+1 Init, +1 WS, Winged, 2 Scything Talons, Toxic Miasma, Warp Blast

Warriors (Two Broods)
+1 Init, +1 S, Extended Carapace, Leaping, Scything Talons/Rending Claws

Hormagaunts (Two Broods)
+1 Init, +1 S, +1 WS, 12 Gaunts

Gaunts (Two Broods)
Fleshborers, 11 Gaunts

Zoanthropes
2x, Warp Blast [/b]

Tear it up, folks.

[Masterfile]

I like your list. How many Warriors are you going to have? It seems as if you are leaning more towards an “In your face” or Hoard army. Quantity over Quality works best according to what I’ve read with this type of army. With 6+ saves, your Hormagaunts and Termagaunts won’t last long against a lot of firepower and you’ll have far less models reaching close combat than you want. You may want to think about getting rid of some of the biomorphs you have given your Hormagaunts, so you can add more of them to your broods. I’m very new to Tyranids myself, so don’t listen to me too much. My ‘Nid army is somewhat “In your face” but will change a little as I reach the 1k point size. But of course that’s part of the fun of the game, is making your own unique army.

[pszito]

A bold new take on 'Nids, for sure. Here's my $.02:

Tyrant - does he really need warp blast? think about it, in two turns he's going to be in CC... with the rare odd turn where you happen to resolve the fight on your opponents turn, you might get a turn or two worth of shots out of a 25 pt upgrade. personally, being fliers can't take extra armor plating, i always go for the warp field. I also wouldn't spare any expense on this guy, go with +1S, Flesh hooks (for charging into cover), and even bio-plas to help even the odds in an out-numbered fight. This is your versatile cure-all for the table, anti-vehicle and troop all in one tight, hard-to-kill package.

Warriors - beautiful. almost exactly how i run mine, tho usually i run a single unit of 5.

Hormagaunts - doing the math (as i've always done) and assuming you're running 'full squads' (iow: more than 8 less than 20; in this case 12) you can get almost 5 more bodies per squad for the same price as you can get of the upgraded ones. Number theory favors quantity with 'nids. the extra attacks will, numerically speaking of course, equal out the lower averages. and when you throw other factors into the mix (feeder tendrils on one model granting re-rolls on CC to-hits now and catalyst making up for lower ini) which then you can drop points on a single upgrade that benefits multiple units while saving on points. with more bodies you also add to the survivability of your list... sometimes the simple math of how much meat you put on the table says your opponent can't physically deal enough wounds in 5-7 turns. Before you eat them, anyway.

Gaunts - more meat good. if you want the cheapest, then how about 5 pt spine gaunts?!? they're excellent for sheer weight! however, S4 shots from meat isn't anything to sneeze at.

zoans - no synapse? they've got two psychic powers and i recommend making full use of them! make the synapse grid locked and solid with the three different toughest models! or spice it up with catalyst to help gaunts charge covered foes.


Hope that all helps, if those are the units you were set on. Otherwise i would totally recommend dropping a warrior or two, making some other trims and throwing in a carnifex! even a cheap one can make take more fire than your opponent can throw out! And now they can run to get to those tasty, crunchy snack transports faster!

Anyway, rock on.

[Masterfile]

I was thinking of making my Warriors fast attack with Wings. Any ideas on where to get the wings? I only have 3 Warriors now, but I plan on getting 2-3 more to be all in the same brood.

[pszito]

I've got three warriors that i've done up with flying wings, using these guys:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1300205&prodId=prod1140259&rootCatGameStyle=
these look great, just not quite BIG enough to get the sense of flight. I also modeled them on their backs, vs their upper arms, and that i would have done differently given a redo!

The other wicked option are these guys:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/wtw.htm
Very pretty, very expensive. But these are also a great inspiration to make your own versions.

mmmm, wings.

[Masterfile]

Thanks Nick. I ended up going with the Forge World wings. I did however, find a conversion where with some wire and some Green Stuff, wings were made out of Scything Talons (webbed in between). Pretty cool. I may try that one out someday.

[Turby]

When i finally get around to making Gargoyles, Termagants with magnetic wings so they can be used at both, I'm going to use these wings.
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg15 ... 4d4b64.jpg

I was told they work great if printed on projector paper and you can mess this the hue to make them any color you want. They may not look cool but they are a far better deal than buying 16 blisters at $11 a blister or any 3D wings. I also like the insect aspect of them. Leathery wings are cool but the buzz of a 1000 Gargoyles is something you will never forget.

[The Guardian of Death]

Yeah, for some reason I thought that Zoanthroapes had Synapse base... guess thats what you get for not actually having a Codex.

How would you go about fitting in the Carnifex. If I remember right they come to about 100 points (cheap-i-sized) which is a chunk of points to find without cutting too many numbers. I love the Carnifex model, and the fire it draws and fear it inspires is nothing to be sneezed at. Check on the Warp Field for the Tyrant and more gaunts over the upgrades.

I do like having two units of Warriors, just because they can contest in 5th down to the last dude and 6 wounds surrounded by lil' guys is probably a pain in the rear.

On the bug wings, my only concerns would be a) the transportation - could probably break really easily and/or tear and b) wanting to go back at a later date to put solid wings on there instead of the paper-weight type.