Finecast - Price Hike

[Requiemnex]

For those of you who havent seen this yet....

If you bother to do the conversion rate on these models. Most of them are 20% price increase from the metal model. The most is a wallet ravaging 26% increase.

"Starting from the 28th of May 120 products that were Games Workshop direct only items will be coming back on the shelves as resin or resin Hybrids. This new range “Citadel Fine Cast” range will be limited in number for the first few months, so we will be taking advance orders for them."

Here are the new recast products at the full RRP;

41-60 COMMANDER DANTE £10.50
53-60 LOGAN GRIMNAR £14.50
55-61 THE EMPERORS CHAMPION £9.50
48-63 SPACE MARINE CHAPLAIN WITH JUMP PACK £10.50
44-60 DARK ANGELS COMPANY MASTER £10.50
48-61 SM LIBRARIAN IN TERMINATOR ARMOUR £14.50
53-61 NJAL STORMCALLER £14.50
41-61 ASTORATH THE GRIM £12.50
43-60 ABADDON THE DESPOILER £14.50
43-61 HURON BLACKHEART £10.50
50-61 ORK WARBOSS WITH ATTACK SQUIG £14.50
50-63 ORK BIG MEK £14.50
50-65 ORK PAINBOY WITH GROT ORDERLY £10.50
46-61 ELDAR AUTARCH WITH POWER WEAPON £10.50
46-62 THE AVATAR OF KHAINE £22.50
46-63 HARLEQUIN DEATH JESTER £10.50
46-64 HARLEQUIN SHADOWSEER £10.50
47-61 COMMISSAR YARRICK £10.50
47-63 IMPERIAL GUARD LORD COMMISSAR £9.50
51-61 TYRANID ZOANTHROPE £15.50
51-63 TYRANID TYRANT GUARD £15.50
51-64 TYRANID HIVE GUARD £15.50
51-65 TYRANID BROODLORD £15.50
57-61 BROTHER CAPTAIN STERN £14.50
57-60 LORD KALDOR DRAIGO £14.50
57-62 CASTELLAN CROWE £10.50
57-63 INQUISITOR COTEAZ £10.50
45-60 DARK ELDAR ARCHON £9.50
45-64 LELITH HESPERAX £10.50
45-63 URIEN RAKARTH £10.50
45-61 DARK ELDAR SUCCUBUS £9.50
56-60 TAU ETHEREAL WITH HONOUR BLADE £9.50
83-62 CHAOS EXALTED HERO £9.50
83-63 CHAOS KHORNE EXALTED HERO £10.50
86-60 EMPIRE CAPTAIN WITH HAMMER & PISTOL £9.50
92-60 WOOD ELF HIGHBORN WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50
84-60 DWARF LORD WITH HAMMER & SHIELD £9.50
84-61 DWARF RUNELORD WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50
90-60 SKAVEN WARLORD £9.50
90-61 QUEEK HEADTAKER £10.50
90-62 DEATHMASTER SNIKCH £10.50
91-61 VAMPIRE LORD £9.50
89-60 GRIMGOR IRONHIDE £10.50
89-62 BLACK ORC BIG BOSS £10.50
87-60 CARADRYAN £10.50
85-61 DARK ELF ASSASSIN WITH TWO HAND WEAPONS £9.50
81-60 MALAGOR THE DARK OMEN £12.50
10-61 URUK-HAI WITH CROSSBOWS £14.00
10-62 URUK-HAI BERSERKERS £14.00
08-61 GOTHMOG (PELENNOR) £20.50
05-60 ELROND AND GIL-GALAD £15.00
10-60 SARUMAN AND GRIMA £15.00
02-60 GANDALF THE WHITE £20.50
04-60 ARAGORN (THE BLACK GATE) £20.50
04-62 THEODEN (HELM’S DEEP) £20.50
04-61 BOROMIR (ITHILIEN) £20.50
09-60 SULADAN THE SERPENT LORD £20.50
08-62 THE DARK MARSHAL (RINGWRAITH) £20.50
05-61 DAIN AND BALIN £15.00
97-60 SKULLTAKER £14.50
48-40 MARNEUS CALGAR AND HONOUR GUARD £36.00
48-41 SPACE MARINE TECHMARINE WITH SERVITORS £25.50
55-40 BLACK TEMPLARS SWORD BRETHREN SQUAD £25.50
48-42 SPACE MARINE STERNGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50
48-43 SPACE MARINE VANGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50
53-40 CANIS WOLFBORN £30.00
43-40 NURGLE DAEMON PRINCE £21.50
43-41 CHAOS SPACE MARINE RAPTORS £25.50
43-42 DEATH GUARD PLAGUE MARINES £25.50
50-43 BOSS ZAGSTRUK £14.50
50-40 GHAZGHKULL THRAKA £22.50
50-41 ORK TANKBUSTAS £25.50
50-42 ORK BIG MEK WITH SHOKK ATTACK GUN £23.00
46-41 ELDAR RANGERS £20.50
46-42 ELDAR DARK REAPERS £23.00
46-44 ELDAR STRIKING SCORPIONS £23.00
46-40 ELDAR FARSEER AND WARLOCKS £20.50
51-42 TYRANID LICTOR £15.50
51-40 TYRANID HIVE TYRANT £36.00
51-41 TYRANID PYROVORE £21.50
45-40 DARK ELDAR INCUBI £23.00
45-41 DARK ELDAR MANDRAKES £20.50
56-40 TAU SNIPER DRONE TEAM £23.00
83-42 ARCHAON THE EVERCHOSEN £30.00
83-43 CHAOS LORD ON DAEMONIC MOUNT £22.50
83-41 CHAOS DRAGON OGRE SHAGGOTH £36.00
86-41 LUDWIG SCHWARZHELM £22.50
86-40 KURT HELBORG £22.50
82-41 THE GREEN KNIGHT £22.50
82-40 KING LOUEN LEONCOEUR £30.00
92-42 WOOD ELVES TREE KIN £30.00
92-40 ORION KING IN THE WOODS £22.50
92-41 WOOD ELVES TREEMAN £36.00
84-40 THOREK IRONBROW £36.00
84-41 DWARF GYROCOPTER £23.00
84-42 DWARF BOLT THROWER £23.00
90-40 SKAVEN WARPLOCK JEZZAILS £30.00
91-40 VAMPIRE COUNTS VARGHULF £21.50
91-42 COUNT MANNFRED £22.50
91-41 VAMPIRE COUNTS BLOOD KNIGHTS £61.50
88-41 KROQ GAR £40.00
89-44 GOBLIN SPEAR CHUKKA £18.50
89-43 SAVAGE ORC GREAT SHAMAN ON WAR BOAR £15.50
89-41 ORC WARBOSS ON WYVERN £40.00
89-42 GOBLIN ROCK LOBBER £23.00
89-45 GORBAD IRONCLAW £30.00
89-40 AZHAG THE SLAUGHTERER £55.00
85-41 DARK ELVES REAPER BOLT THROWER £18.50
08-40 THE DARK LORD SAURON £25.50
08-42 GULAHVAR THE TERROR OF ARNOR £30.00
08-43 MORDOR TROLL CHIEFTAIN £25.50
02-40 THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING £37.00
97-42 FLAMERS OF TZEENTCH £15.50

[the Goat]

Par for the course with Games Workshop. Any chance to raise prices.

And for anybody who said they were switching materials so they could lower prices. . . in your face!

[Jadin]

Typical GW. I'm not sure I will continue with my plan of a dwarf and a warriors of chaos army for fantasy now. It's pretty bad when they start pricing engineers out of the hobby. Now, to finish my Raven Guard or not? I will have to reflect on the matter.

At least I have my Dark Elves and Empire.

[Vayhne]

Good thing I have all the wolves I need

[WavepooL]

Lame! GW must be doing well for themselves eh?

[Requiemnex]

I actually did a bit of reading about this. GW in my opinion is actually increasing prices for a few reasons here. Granted the annual price hike is due but...

1. Current change in sales distribution policy for Gamesworkshop has changed and they are attempting to prevent austrailia from capitolizing on their product by being able to purchase low and sell below normal cost and still make a profit. When exploitation happens like this even of a large business it can make a huge dent in profits.

2. The modification for molds, equipment, and new supply of material to make their new finecast models will be a large up front cost to them when in reality they were actually taking a LOSS on making some metal models because of the current material costs.

3. GW's bullying other people into not making their product, ensuring that people get sued whenever they break the copyright laws has left them in a bit of a hole. They spend more money trying to push people through court actions and have not been monitarily compensated that it has become very expensive for them.


So while profits are up, player base is down, cost to run their business is WAY up. Granted they may not have a good business model but it is the one they chose and none of us are going to change it.

[EmperorsWrath]

The player base can change it by not buying their product and switching to other games. So many people are walking away from GW this week. The increase in price in what "used to be metal" models is not the only change that is occurring: they are also raising prices again (psst...the last price hike was only seven months ago...). Land Raider is now $66. Assault Marines are $33 for 5. And then there's the Australia / Brazil / other places problems which don't directly affect us but they are yet another view of GW as a company. Not sure why they want to be universally loathed. A price reduction in a poor economic time would have benefited them with positive morale as well as a boost in sales. As soon as you go public and have [stupid] shareholders to have to appease you get decisions like these.

[Jadin]

1. Current change in sales distribution policy for Gamesworkshop has changed and they are attempting to prevent austrailia from capitolizing on their product by being able to purchase low and sell below normal cost and still make a profit. When exploitation happens like this even of a large business it can make a huge dent in profits.

This entertains me. If you check the Australian Dollar exchange rate versus the US Dollar, it's much closer than it used to be. While we pay $40 for a box, they have to pay the equivalent of $80 us dollars. GW refuses to recognize the newer value of the Canadian and Australian Dollar and absolutely will not adjust prices to account for this.

That's why those countries have been using retailers like Maelstrom and buying in pounds versus aussie dollars. How would you feel if you had to pay $70 for 10 Space Marines?

Mantic figures (except the dwarves, which I think are terrible sculpts) are starting to look like a very reasonable price. Tonight I am going to run some numbers on them. My hang up is I love the Olde World more than any other game system background.

GW continues to have business practices that will make them go out of business. I have a small list of items I want to buy from GW before I am done with my Empire and Dark Elf armies, and I am just going to go with that. Any future purchases after that will probably be army books or rule books.

[Tu'shan]

It's pretty lame overall. I'm not terribly angry about the price situation, but GW slowly pushing away its playerbase is not going to help the gaming end of this at all. I mean, yeah some of us can afford the game but how the hell am I supposed to sell new players on such a ridiculous pricing schema, especially now that entry level is even more expensive. They're going to turn the game into such a niche market that only the hardcores will stick around.

This is just another selling point of cheaper games designed by smaller companies (I'm looking at you Spartan Games).

[Jadin]

I did run the numbers, Mantic is half as much as an equivalent GW force or better. I woudln't scoff if someone set a Mantic force before my Dark Elves or Empire, but I guess that depends on the individual person. The army kits are $250ish versus $500+ of an equivalent GW product. You just have to get used to the non heroic scale.

At this time, however, I am not starting any new armies for any miniature game.